From: Brian Holtz [brian@holtz.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:57 AM
To: jordan@mail.theism.net
Subject: RE: atheist deconversion


> Now, refute the points of my position or stop interrupting my 
> reading time.

Since (as I demonstrated re: 500, martyrs, kamikazes) you seem 
unable to discern whether the points of a position have even 
been addressed (let alone refuted), I'm not inclined to try to 
meet whatever idiosyncratic criteria you might have for 
considering something a refutation. At any rate, in addition 
to the rebuttal -- unanswered anywhere in your oeuvre -- 
I already offered regarding the 500, martyrs, and kamikazes, 
I note that your "position" on the resurrection is among the 
Christian claims answered in my book at 
http://humanknowledge.net/Thoughts.html#ArgumentsAgainstChristianity.

> I remind you:
> 
> "Holtz is welcome to debate if he follows the rules. He will have 
> to stop the character attacks, read the previous debates, etc. or 
> take a hike."

And I remind you: 
1) analyzing your conversion does not constitute a "character attack"; and 
2) your material will have to be somewhat more impressive before it 
merits a specific rebuttal from me. (For example, your site's essay 
on the stolen body never even considers the obvious possibility that 
most disciples did not know it was stolen.)

I will, however, be interested to see whether you have the intellectual 
courage (i.e. character) to post the full contents of our exchange 
on your site.