From: ptireland@charter.net
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:01 PM
To: Brian Holtz
Cc: marketliberal@yahoogroups.com; libertarian@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Allow me represent you in the Ex-Com

The United States government has absolutely no authority beyond our own borders.
The U.S. Military is defined and limited by the Constitution as being for the
DEFENSE of America. Not anywhere else. The first president of the U.S. warned
of entangling alliances.

The tired "Tyranny anywhere is a threat to liberty everywhere" line is just a
way for people to excuse their desire to practice imperialism and military
interventionism.

The U.S. isn't a "liberating army", it's a "defensive army" and any attempts to
use it as a liberating army are a flagrant misuse of the military. The valid
and limited role of the U.S. government does NOT include choosing who will or
won't be free, who will or won't rule a country, what kind of government they
will have, what weapons they will or won't have, etc. and it never will.


There are hundreds of thousands less Iraqi people today than there were before
this blatantly unconstitutional war in Iraq.

People have been leaving the LP in droves thanks to the kind of people I
mentioned. By making the party less comfortable for these people, they will
leave and the real libertarians they chased away will return so any claims of
alienating people are false. I'd be chasing out the people who have been
chasing out real libertarians. The only people who should be in the party are
actual libertarians and this disqualifies anyone who supports the war in Iraq.

You asked what I specifically oppose about the RLC. I oppose to all of it. I
don't care what libertarian sounding rhetoric they use, or what they CLAIM to
support. The fact of the matter is the RLC is part of the Republican party and
the Republican party stands for large, costly, instrusive government that
violates rights, steals more of our hard-earned money, starts unprovoked wars
against nations that pose no threat to America, support laws against consensual
acts, and otherwise violate the non-aggression principle which defines who is or
isn't a libertarian.

If you support the war in Iraq, you support violating the U.S. Constitution, you
support using force for political gain and social engineering, and you are
absolutey NOT a libertarian and you have no valid place in the LP. If you
happen to agree with libertarians on certain issues, it's great to work
together, but this doesn't make you a libertarian.